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      Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
      here some Pictures








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        wow. k2 should be making these. or are they in aggressive style?

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          The Il Capo's are considered freeskates (or recreational). They come with metal frames and huge wheels, well by aggressive skating standards they are huge.

          These are not aggressive skates, and wouldn't last for very long under the stress of aggressive skating. But they sure look sweet, don't they?

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            the next gen. of aggressive K2 skates are so sick and have a lot of style like the IL CAPO 2 the Freeskate and the Aggressive skates have the same Baseplate so you can use the skates also for aggresive or freeskate, i use my Varsity as Freeskate couse the Varsity style fits better in the freeskate area

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              what makes these skates any less robust than the varsity? do the free skates have softer plastic for the cuffs?

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                no the cuff are the same, just the Material are little bit more lightwight, not so many Gum around the toe ... i love the skate also inside so perfect Fitting on my feet ... like its really made for your feet

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                  waaaa IL CAPO 2 are so fucking awesome they fits so perfect .... LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE

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                    http://cgi.ebay.com/FATTY-Grind-Plat...item4cf5fe77ef

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                      Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                      here some Pictures


                      sehr sehr schön

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                        Y U USE UGLY COLORS

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                          Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                          The Il Capo's are considered freeskates (or recreational). They come with metal frames and huge wheels, well by aggressive skating standards they are huge.

                          These are not aggressive skates, and wouldn't last for very long under the stress of aggressive skating. But they sure look sweet, don't they?
                          There you go, your own pair of "freeskates"
                          http://cgi.ebay.com/K2-SPORTS-Mens-I...ht_1431wt_1139

                          knock yourself out

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                            they look so sweet!

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                              Originally posted by petew View Post
                              There you go, your own pair of "freeskates"
                              http://cgi.ebay.com/K2-SPORTS-Mens-I...ht_1431wt_1139

                              knock yourself out
                              Thanks, I can use Google and eBay search functions, too. That model looks gross to me, the black and yellow ones don't.

                              $257 for those? Not fucking likely.

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                                Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                                Thanks, I can use Google and eBay search functions, too. That model looks gross to me, the black and yellow ones don't.

                                $257 for those? Not fucking likely.
                                I got those first, for 120, and then sent them back to get fattys. WHAT A FUCKING MISTAKE! Al told me not to, too, but I was dumb. I thought the grinding/cess slide ability of the fattys was worth it. I think the blue and white ones look way cool though!
                                Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."

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                                  Originally posted by Alex Coe View Post
                                  I got those first, for 120, and then sent them back to get fattys. WHAT A FUCKING MISTAKE! Al told me not to, too, but I was dumb. I thought the grinding/cess slide ability of the fattys was worth it. I think the blue and white ones look way cool though!


                                  for diff'rent folks

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                                    The moral is, actually, that the fattys suck in comparison to the il capo. Still kicking myself.
                                    Remember: "It is better to keep your [hands still] and appear stupid than to [respond] and remove all doubt."

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                                      new Cuff Bolds ...

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                                        Those were the worst K2 cuff bolts ever, why would you use those? Good luck finding the cotter pins when they fall out, because they WILL fall out.

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                                          i have hmmm maybe 100 bolds so dosent mather hahaha

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                                            For historical documentation:

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                                              Good post Fast Eddie. I like reading posts from skaters from my era.

                                              I remember when they first came out the biggest thing was the flat base. It was such a radical change from the standard design conventions it was hard to adjust to, both psychologically and physically.

                                              That skate pioneered so much - the flat base, the short cuff, the soft boot. Incredible.

                                              I also remember thinking...the soft boot isn't going to work, it will get all torn up. But it didn't. I always find it interesting how all our assumptions can be turned on their heads. For example when the Xsjados first came out everyone though their toes would be stubbed because it was "exposed" but it turns out that was never a problem.
                                              Last edited by ty; 26.04.2011, 07:38. Reason: change

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                                                Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                here some Pictures








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                                                  So the Varsitys don't have the same stock soul under the replaceable soul as the Fattys?
                                                  They're slimmer, am I right?
                                                  Is there enough soul place to just skate then without the replaceable souls?
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                                                    The permanent soul area on the Varsity's are not at all ideal to grind on. With the replaceable plates off, the backslide area is pure rubber, and the soul area is smaller than the negative area on most skates.

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                                                      yes true i hope a new Replace Soulplate is coming soon with a better BS Plate Area and Wider Soul and not to round better shuffle area .... the Varsity Soulplate Sucks and i think if K2 are to slow the past her owne rebirth and then is GAME OVER .....

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                                                        Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                        i think if K2 are to slow the past her owne rebirth and then is GAME OVER .....

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                                                          Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                          the Varsity Soulplate Sucks and i think if K2 are to slow the past her owne rebirth and then is GAME OVER .....
                                                          Your English is terrible to read What the fuck are you trying to say here?

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                                                            Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                            let's do some art together
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                                                              sorry for my bad English hahaha

                                                              next setup ....

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                                                                Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                                                                For historical documentation:

                                                                I really love these skates. they look like they would be fun to roll on.
                                                                to bad I cant find them anywhere
                                                                the way these are set up is perfect
                                                                Last edited by John X Campbell; 06.06.2011, 04:02.
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                                                                  Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                                  sorry for my bad English hahaha

                                                                  next setup ....

                                                                  then they would be killer

                                                                  these look much better without the yellow part around the sould area, but they would look a million times more solid if you did the following

                                                                  if you put either these frames


                                                                  or these frames

                                                                  Be-mag #6470

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                                                                    Originally posted by chris k View Post
                                                                    So has anyone had a good look at the new Fatty? Improvement on the previous model?

                                                                    when are these supposed to be released in the states
                                                                    Be-mag #6470

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                                                                      my new one ... but which soulplate now ???
                                                                      ist size 10 but the Size 10 Varsity Soulplate dosent fit, couse the BasePlate / SoulPlate is one size bigger ... dont know why ??

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                                                                        Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                                        my new one ... but which soulplate now ???
                                                                        ist size 10 but the Size 10 Varsity Soulplate dosent fit, couse the BasePlate / SoulPlate is one size bigger ... dont know why ??

                                                                        WTF I need these.
                                                                        they need to come out stateside already

                                                                        also can you take more pictures of this boot of every angle
                                                                        top view, side views, bottom views please
                                                                        Be-mag #6470

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                                                                          Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                                          my new one ... but which soulplate now ???
                                                                          ist size 10 but the Size 10 Varsity Soulplate dosent fit, couse the BasePlate / SoulPlate is one size bigger ... dont know why ??

                                                                          well I just got word from a guy at k2
                                                                          here is what he said
                                                                          Hi John,
                                                                          Currently there are no plans to release the Euro model here. As to what occurs for 2012 I will not know for another month or two.

                                                                          Doug @ K2 Skate
                                                                          Last edited by John X Campbell; 06.06.2011, 19:58.
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                                                                            i hope a new shaped soulplate is in work ... ask Doug some thing about that shit .... my Varsity Soulplate does not fit on the FATTY ... same size ... thats sucks ...

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                                                                              to bad doug didnt leave me his email when I emailed them from k2's site.
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                                                                                hey B.Rose why dont you order me a size 9 US in the fatty pros and Ill pay you back as well as pay for shipping from germany to the us lol
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                                                                                  Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                                                                                  The 2008 Fatty Pro/Fatty era:


                                                                                  Back to old school with very few replaceable parts. It seems like K2 stopped trying to compete at this point. Lots of downgrades: some came with non-replaceable cuff rivets, none came with sturdy buckles that stay closed 90% of the time. Hit the receptors once or twice, and they'll stay open all the time. Keep some needle nosed pliers around to fix the buckles at just about every session.

                                                                                  The Fatty Pro has a useless instep strap that is no where near wide enough to offer any real support. This causes heel lift. Not cool.

                                                                                  The toe cap is not easily removable, and can actually render the skates useless if you try to pry it off. The boot will quickly separate from the souls.

                                                                                  Using 2 foot pads is the best bet. I bruised my heels when I switched the frames. Weird.

                                                                                  These skates are cheap for a reason. The stock frames are super durable, but really hard to get a groove in without the aid of a disc grinder. They still use 6mm hardware, which is retarded for this day and age.

                                                                                  Overall, the skates were disappointing. Good for beginner, bad of people who have been skating for a long time and appreciate quality products.


                                                                                  The Varsity era:


                                                                                  for a detailed review with tons of photos of the skates disassembled, go to issue #6 of Balance rolling magazine: www.balancerollingmag.com
                                                                                  I guess I will just end up buying the US fatty Pro's
                                                                                  I tried a pair on today at sports authority, they were pretty comfortable.

                                                                                  I would go with the Varsity's but I honestly cannot stand the color of these nor the whole varsity jacket appearance. its just way to gimmicky in my opnion and makes the skates look like a joke. they would possibly be semi alright if they were black and white instead of red and white.
                                                                                  whoever designed those they are an idiot and should be put in front of a firing squad
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                                                                                    Originally posted by B.Rose View Post
                                                                                    here some Pictures


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                                                                                    I would definitely try K2 if they came almost exactly like that in a wide
                                                                                    (but not too wide) size 12 with the souls, frames and wheels in black and yellow, or more preferably all in wet concrete grey and acid green. Even if they didn't work out I'd still keep those sexy beasts forever...



                                                                                    ...in a glass case!

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Alex Coe View Post
                                                                                      I got those first, for 120, and then sent them back to get fattys. WHAT A FUCKING MISTAKE! Al told me not to, too, but I was dumb. I thought the grinding/cess slide ability of the fattys was worth it. I think the blue and white ones look way cool though!
                                                                                      Can you elaborate this for me. exactly why are rec skates with varsity souls better than the fattys as is. i have old man ankles and too much flex similar to xjsados causes a great deal of pain for me. please clarify any and all details

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                                                                                        top so it doesn't fall of the board forever

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                                                                                          anyone have a pair of size 9 maybe 8.5 bing airs lying around. my first skates ever back in like late 99 and i miss them soo much this post makes me want them again sooo bad and with the yellow grind plates, the oens i got didnt come with them but a friend had his with the yellow grindplates. i would trade my pretty fucking minty fresh size 8 nemesis for decent condish bing airs

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                                                                                            Found some 10.5s for $20 w/o grind plates.

                                                                                            Check Craigslist every once in a while, you'll find some eventually. Use this site, it will check all Craiglist postings for what you need: http://www.allofcraigs.com/
                                                                                            Last edited by fast eddie; 15.09.2011, 23:17.

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                                                                                              Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                                                                                              I'll give this a stab.

                                                                                              Original Fatty Pro/Fatty/Backyard era:


                                                                                              K2 Toe- when wearing K2 skates and hitting the toe cap really hard would usually bend the nail of your big toe and it would cut into the skin. Very painful and hard to skate for a few weeks until it healed.

                                                                                              The K2 backslide plate was made of a rubber/plastic compound that made the skates famous for awesome backslides. Since not many people were doing torques of farvs, no one really knew how deadly these backslide plates were at the time. Backslides and royales = awesome. Farvs/torques = sticking and dying.

                                                                                              The souls were narrow (but lasted for a long time) and if you had grind plates on, negatives were very scary unless you were a little topside on them.

                                                                                              The cuff rivets would sometimes sheer off over time, especially if you did a lot of gaps. I used a bunch of zip ties to rig it back together when it happened to me. The rivets were not replaceable.

                                                                                              The buckles on the Fatty Pros were better than on the Backyards and Fatties, as the latter would sometimes get bent and stay open if you hit the buckle receptor on an obstacle.

                                                                                              The H-block was replaceable, and the grind plates helped it keep its shape a little longer.

                                                                                              The frames were, believe it or not, pretty durable. My Backyards last almost 2 years, and all I skated were ledges and rails. The 6mm axles were junk, I'd break them all the time. So glad everyone moved onto 8mm.

                                                                                              I progressed a lot with the Backyards. They skated very well.


                                                                                              The King 55/Style Point Bob era:


                                                                                              The backslide plates were pretty much the same as the previous era. Maybe a little less rubbery, but not much.

                                                                                              The toe cap was removable, which a lot of people did despite the infamous "K2 Toe".

                                                                                              This was the first Teflon injection method they used for the souls. The slid a lot faster than previous eras.

                                                                                              The buckles were very sturdy and solid. After sliding out a lot, over time the metal edges would become very sharp. Unless you maintained that aspect, unexpected cuts would appear all over your hands or whatever else brushed up against the buckles.

                                                                                              Cuff rivets were replaced with replaceable cotter pin attachments that would rattle loose and the pin would fall out all the time. I spent a lot of time looking for those stupid pins!

                                                                                              The Style Points were the lower end skates, but I preferred them to the King 55s. They were super stable and supportive.

                                                                                              The King 55s had the first ever internal cuff. Despite some people liking this, I thought that the cuffs warped way too fast for being such expensive skates. I really disliked the functionality of the King 55s, even though they were gorgeous skates.


                                                                                              The Bing Air and Backyard Bob era:


                                                                                              Pretty much just aesthetically updated the Backyards with new colors and names. Very little changes other than making the souls a bit more level and not as curvaceous as the original Backyards.

                                                                                              Cotter pins for cuff attachment.

                                                                                              Thicker H-Blocks, still replaceable.

                                                                                              I never skated these, was still riding my Style Points.


                                                                                              The 250cc/125cc/Mini 80 era:


                                                                                              On the 250ccs, the backslide plate was updated to a newer and not so rubbery compound that allowed for slightly better torques/farvs. This time, the backslide plate and toe cap were all one piece.

                                                                                              Cotter pins for the cuffs, again.

                                                                                              I am pretty sure the Mini 80s were the first aggressive skates for kids that were adjustable.

                                                                                              The instep strap kept your foot snugly in place, but still allowed for comfortable forward flexibility.

                                                                                              Teflon injected frames slid very fast but they didn't seem to last as long as the King 55/Style Points.

                                                                                              These skates were the first K2s where everything was supposed to be replaceable, even the souls. It even looks like they were toying around with the thought of UFS, but that would wait for a while longer.

                                                                                              I'm on my second set of yellow and black 250ccs. The first set skated very well, the second set I have converted to UFS.

                                                                                              For the 125ccs, they were slightly redesigned Backyard Bobs, and really share none of the features of the 250ccs.

                                                                                              The Natural/Enemy/Mini Enemy era:



                                                                                              The Naturals were basically the same as the 250ccs, just aesthetically different and with no in-step strap.

                                                                                              They moved away from the cotter pin bullshit and went to regular cuff bolts that were replaceable.

                                                                                              The Enemy skates...god awful. I shall not speak of them here.

                                                                                              I never skated any of these skates, I held out until the Nemesis style boots came out.


                                                                                              The Nemesis/Schrijn/Transfer/Lennen/Weis/Yasutoko era:


                                                                                              Everything is replaceable. First UFS K2 skates. That option was pretty late in the UFS game, but it allowed some people who wouldn't skate non-UFS skates a chance to pick up some of these bad mamma-jammas.

                                                                                              New frames with laminated graphics, a first in the industry. Also the last, as the graphics sucked.

                                                                                              Completely new cuff and buckle system, borrowed designs from their snowboard boots. Tons of support. These skates were bulky as hell, but ankle injuries were the last thing on your mind when skating these.

                                                                                              The most comfortable skates ever made, some would argue. They were like pillows on your feet.

                                                                                              Aircraft carrier-wide soul plates, with negatives bigger than the souls on some skates. Great for cess slides, farvs and torques.

                                                                                              Replaceable souls meant that the skates could last a very long time if maintained properly.

                                                                                              These were all-around skates that you could use for vert, street and park.


                                                                                              The 2008 Fatty Pro/Fatty era:


                                                                                              Back to old school with very few replaceable parts. It seems like K2 stopped trying to compete at this point. Lots of downgrades: some came with non-replaceable cuff rivets, none came with sturdy buckles that stay closed 90% of the time. Hit the receptors once or twice, and they'll stay open all the time. Keep some needle nosed pliers around to fix the buckles at just about every session.

                                                                                              The Fatty Pro has a useless instep strap that is no where near wide enough to offer any real support. This causes heel lift. Not cool.

                                                                                              The toe cap is not easily removable, and can actually render the skates useless if you try to pry it off. The boot will quickly separate from the souls.

                                                                                              Using 2 foot pads is the best bet. I bruised my heels when I switched the frames. Weird.

                                                                                              These skates are cheap for a reason. The stock frames are super durable, but really hard to get a groove in without the aid of a disc grinder. They still use 6mm hardware, which is retarded for this day and age.

                                                                                              Overall, the skates were disappointing. Good for beginner, bad of people who have been skating for a long time and appreciate quality products.


                                                                                              The Varsity era:


                                                                                              for a detailed review with tons of photos of the skates disassembled, go to issue #6 of Balance rolling magazine: www.balancerollingmag.com
                                                                                              + REP for the sick presentation, haha. What I'd do for some size 9 Fatty Pro (reds)!

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                                                                                                K2's, what a story, been skating on them for years, well over 14 years, i think, Rolled in: Fatty Pro's, Backyard Bobs, Style Point Bobs, King 55's, Enemy's and now just ordered my 2012 Varsity's, Oh Yeah! cant wait.....

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                                                                                                  Arise, chicken, arise!

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                                                                                                    Originally posted by fast eddie View Post
                                                                                                    Arise, chicken, arise!
                                                                                                    aqua teen? ohh and i'll leave these here...







                                                                                                    all come with shitty stock buckle/strap systems that can easily be replaced with any other buckle. i recomend double feetbeds for all of the models as seen above.

                                                                                                    the il capos come with straps that are riveted in and require drilling to remove. the varsity souls are pretty durable, average slide speed (faster than xjsado but not as fast as solos). the 2012 varsities lacing system does not provide as much support as the fatty pros or il capos. the il capos lacing system seems to be one grommit short from the top that the 2012 varsities do seem to have.

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