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    Originally posted by r.s. View Post
    You dudes bitching about pros not having health insurance, do you not realize anyone can easily obtain a relatively cheap health plan on their own? It would be cheaper for me to get one on my own then for my company to pay for it right now with the way my groups plan is structured. Stop being so fucking ignorant, do some research on your own and stop siding with cry baby Colin. There is no excusing this behavior, he's acting like a little kid.
    What do you mean by relatively cheap? Health insurance changes drastically depending where you live. I was able to get coverage for $180 a month in NY, when I lived in Dallas I couldn't find anything for less than $340 for worse coverage. These options wouldn't have even been available to me if I had had a real job at the time because the income limits for the plans was below $2000 a month. Also for people like us who are putting ourselves at risk more often than not the basic coverage isn't going to cut it if you get really fucked up.

    I can't even bring myself to thoughtfully comment on the rest of this thread though, bleh

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      I gotta go with CK, albeit the way he went about it was a little obscure. Bottom line, he is trying to get more for rollerblading and rollerbladers and I respect that. All you dudes saying "it's been that way forever, what do you expect?" is that really a reason to not want to change it and give up before trying? The way I see it, if Colin hadn't said anything, no one would even try to get blading what we all know it deserves.

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        http://www.be-mag.com/msgboard/showt.../30865-CK-lolz

        read.

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          Originally posted by gRANT View Post
          What do you mean by relatively cheap? Health insurance changes drastically depending where you live. I was able to get coverage for $180 a month in NY, when I lived in Dallas I couldn't find anything for less than $340 for worse coverage. These options wouldn't have even been available to me if I had had a real job at the time because the income limits for the plans was below $2000 a month. Also for people like us who are putting ourselves at risk more often than not the basic coverage isn't going to cut it if you get really fucked up.

          I can't even bring myself to thoughtfully comment on the rest of this thread though, bleh
          FL is cheap? I dont know. I just know it would be roughly 40 dollars cheaper if I were to purchase my own health plan right now. We just switched providers and our rates jumped up so I was considering getting my own and I found a bunch that were good plans and a bit cheaper than what im paying currently. Like you said it differs from state to state.

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            I might sound stupid here but much like hotdogs, i don't really care where my skates come from


            WANT TO BUY
            Face The Music

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              Colin Kelso is pathetic. I mean just go away already. You're like a disease to rollerblading. We all agree you're a great skater, but you're an awful person. And Quark is right. You are dead wrong. And you come onto Be-Mag to start your bullshit. Billy doesn't owe you any answers. None of us care. We just want to skate. Go finish college like a normal person and shut the fuck up. Skating is a hobby, not a career. Get over it.

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                And if someone wants to change how the rollerblading industry runs, it's certainly not going to be Colin Kelso.

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                  Originally posted by thrueyesofruby View Post
                  Colin Kelso is pathetic. I mean just go away already. You're like a disease to rollerblading. We all agree you're a great skater, but you're an awful person. And Quark is right. You are dead wrong. And you come onto Be-Mag to start your bullshit. Billy doesn't owe you any answers. None of us care. We just want to skate. Go finish college like a normal person and shut the fuck up. Skating is a hobby, not a career. Get over it.
                  Originally posted by thrueyesofruby View Post
                  And if someone wants to change how the rollerblading industry runs, it's certainly not going to be Colin Kelso.
                  my better judgment makes me want to just lock this thread after that. thank you.

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                    Originally posted by gygy322 View Post
                    make your own skate company and stop complaining.
                    He ain't "complaining", he's hyping the company.

                    Originally posted by CovertOps View Post
                    Your only real play here is to do something for the industry yourself... as in... create something. And when you do, I will buy it... on principle.
                    Yes you will, just like you bought the "principle".

                    Originally posted by psyfron View Post
                    start a boot company, make a good quality product (anything but clothing) and i will buy it. Simple...
                    Yeah, they know the formula.....they're the ones who taught it to you.

                    Originally posted by areessea View Post
                    i wish that someone in andy wegner's consortium would step up and expose that side.
                    They won't.

                    Does anyone else find it odd that pro skaters, who one week can't afford health insurance, next week have a warehouse full of "SKATER-OWNED" product to sell you. As long as you have faith in this idea, things will only change for worse.

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                      Originally posted by jakeordie View Post
                      He ain't "complaining", he's hyping the company.


                      Yes you will, just like you bought the "principle".


                      Yeah, they know the formula.....they're the ones who taught it to you.


                      They won't.

                      Does anyone else find it odd that pro skaters, who one week can't afford health insurance, next week have a warehouse full of "SKATER-OWNED" product to sell you. As long as you have faith in this idea, things will only change for worse.
                      SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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                        your a loser, a loser with a skinny wiener

                        but ya

                        jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up, your being a whiny little fucking bitch and wont shut the fuck up, all you do is sit on your computer all day and talk shit on people, why ddidnt try to make it better yourself and start some shit done "right". no one gives a fuck what your saying, you lost your marbles and now your a faggot.

                        get off face book and be mag and go do something with your parents money and have some fun, your a real bad ass man, complaining to 13 year old kids who dont knoow there dick from there ass and even they think your a god damn fucking moron.

                        eat shit you fucking cock sucker


                        and for the record, sk is still the man besides the fact that his brother is a doofus

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                          Originally posted by DAFALO View Post
                          complaining to 13 year old kids who dont knoow there dick from there ass and even they think your a god damn fucking moron.

                          did you know that most of us on here are 20+ years old? i think you have the wrong forum in mind

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                            Originally posted by r.s. View Post
                            SHUT THE FUCK UP.
                            you need to "calm" down, man
                            Awesome thread https://www.be-mag.com/msgboard/gossip/1774972-awesome-thread

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                              that one dude was right. it's a fucking hobby. take your "pro wage" and use it to pay for health care and travel from time to time. it's foolish to think that rollerblading can provide a living, but it can offset the costs of it. get a job, go to school, or stfu and pick a different sport.

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                                Originally posted by s. View Post
                                you need to "calm" down, man
                                Calmest guy. I just hate jakeordie with a fiery passion.

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                                  ck...I will never watch your truth II section again but I now respect you. <3

                                  http://vimeo.com/user658948

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                                    Originally posted by Teh Nap View Post
                                    ck...I will never watch your truth II section again but I now respect you. <3
                                    you respect him now? did you read what he said about billy?

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                                      Originally posted by Special ED View Post
                                      my better judgment makes me want to just lock this thread after that. thank you.
                                      Please, lock this shit down! HOF

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                                        Originally posted by psyfron View Post
                                        you respect him now? did you read what he said about billy?
                                        nope but I've never met billy so I don't really care...I respect the fact that he has balls. Even if he's misguided (which I don't think he is) he's still doing what he thinks is right for blading and himself. I appreciate bold actions and now that I've read over all of his rants I feel like I have some grasp on where he's coming from.

                                        http://vimeo.com/user658948

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                                          Originally posted by Dre View Post
                                          I love how i made more money from rollerblading than most pro rollerbladers
                                          +rep

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                                            Originally posted by Chris Calkins View Post
                                            Please, lock this shit down! HOF
                                            after all this I think colin needs his own section in the hall of fame.

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                                              Originally posted by r.s. View Post
                                              after all this I think colin needs his own section in the hall of fame.
                                              CK for be-mag.com/msgboard pro!

                                              http://vimeo.com/user658948

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                                                Originally posted by Teh Nap View Post
                                                CK for be-mag.com/msgboard pro!
                                                hahahahaha he can even have his own mini bitches post for maximum jaunce wucking.

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                                                  This is not HOF worthy, guys. Is there a Dead Horse forum?

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                                                    Originally posted by u am snookems View Post
                                                    This is not HOF worthy, guys.
                                                    Yet.

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                                                      Originally posted by CK View Post
                                                      quark your not understanding this because your ego revolves around the intellect you think you have...and I get that. Your a fat kid so being smart makes up for your lack in appearance so you have to stress it every chance you can.
                                                      all ive learned through 6 pages is quark is a witty fat kid, lets start some sort of club.

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                                                        posting in epic thread.

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                                                          On another note...

                                                          Colin, your goal with this is to get the conference to pay riders better, health insurance, trips, etc., correct? Are these requirements for a company to be run in a professional manner, in your opinion anyway?

                                                          Would the conference suing you for being so influential and talking badly against their business also be professional? What you're doing is illegal (provided your lying) and the conference reserves every right to act in a "proffesional manner" and sure your ass in order to protect their investment.

                                                          Pretend you decide to open a lemonade stand at the end of your parents driveway since you're no longer being paid to skate. Business goes well for you for a while, until you add an iced tea option. Now profits are declining. Would you allocate the lemonade profits to make sure you can keep selling iced tea even if it's not profitable for you? No. so what do you really want the conference to do?

                                                          I've gained respect for the conference for not simply doing away with their iced tea option.

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                                                            LOL. I'm shocked anyone listens to what dude says. this shits all about ck and his ego. support rollerblading, skater owned or not. the skater owned thing has been promoted since i started skating 10+ years ago. most of these companies fell through, and up until recently with companies like valo and nimh this term was meaningless. the conference makes good products, and promote blading. why would you even try to hurt their business, if they really were a bunch of money hungry corporate scumbags i highly doubt rollerblading would be of any concern to them.

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                                                              Originally posted by u am snookems View Post
                                                              This is not HOF worthy, guys. Is there a Dead Horse forum?

                                                              summed it all up right here.

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                                                                rabble rabble


                                                                WANT TO BUY
                                                                Face The Music

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                                                                  Originally posted by greg is cool View Post
                                                                  all ive learned through 6 pages is quark is a witty fat kid, lets start some sort of club.
                                                                  you'd need wit for that

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                                                                    I hope Billy responds to this, doubtful though.

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                                                                      He shouldn't knock Demetrios. That guy is bringing the West Coast back.

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                                                                        Colin you're a whinny bitch and you need to stop crying, no one gives a shit.

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                                                                          Originally posted by Brenmannn View Post
                                                                          He shouldn't knock Demetrios. That guy is bringing the West Coast back.
                                                                          the west coast was gone?

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                                                                            the meksikanz stole it. dem george took it back

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                                                                              dey turk ar jurbs

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                                                                                  I still don't understand why "that's the way it's been forever" is an argument. What if that was the mentality of the slaves? or women? or people in general? there would be no new ideas, and the same old shitstorm of no progress. apply this to rollerblading and it's the same thing, if people don't care, nothing will improve. I can't believe how many of you are against our pros (who work harder than you would in an office job), the pros who have dedicated their life to this sport, this shitty barely buoyant industry, the pros who have influence an entire generation of bladers, having a proper salary and health care for what they do.

                                                                                  This is not about Colin Kelso or his crazy rants. It's about trying to help those who truly do believe in rollerblading 100%. It's obvious not many of you do. if you think it can't be done, skateboarding did it, skiing did it, snowboarding did it, motocross did it....

                                                                                  I'm not going to pretend that I know the logistics behind all the corporate malarkey, but I do know that the wage is generally not enough to support yourself, and if its so bad that one of the more influential, known pros QUITS everything because it was run so poorly that something is probably amiss.

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                                                                                    Originally posted by r.s. View Post
                                                                                    the west coast was gone?

                                                                                    ya basically it was gone for a while but he nailed enough dro and jumped high enough to snatch it back

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                                                                                      Originally posted by gen2roller View Post
                                                                                      I still don't understand why "that's the way it's been forever" is an argument. What if that was the mentality of the women?


                                                                                      THE FUCK NONSENSE IS THIS PACO
                                                                                      HËLLAHËLLA

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                                                                                        Please wake me when Billy Posts.

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                                                                                          What I would like to know is how much NIMH, Valo, and The Conference really pay their pros.

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                                                                                            shits funny haha everytime im on be mag anymore its always about skater owned shit. when will people realize rollerblading isnt really that cool to everyone else?
                                                                                            Sk8 4 fun

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                                                                                              ROLLERBLADING IS A FUCKING HOBBY.

                                                                                              Do you think guys who build model cars ask for health insurance?

                                                                                              Stop faggoting up my be-mag.

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                                                                                                Originally posted by kike mallahan View Post
                                                                                                ROLLERBLADING IS A FUCKING HOBBY.

                                                                                                Do you think guys who build model cars ask for health insurance?

                                                                                                Stop faggoting up my be-mag.
                                                                                                mike i usually think youre a pretty smart poster but that was just a horrendously ignorant statement...to say rollerblading is a hobby while other extreme sports just like it are treated as sports is just ignorant and i hope a skater such as you realizes this...

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                                                                                                  Originally posted by kike mallahan View Post
                                                                                                  ROLLERBLADING IS A FUCKING HOBBY.

                                                                                                  Do you think guys who build model cars ask for health insurance?

                                                                                                  Stop faggoting up my be-mag.
                                                                                                  Who's to say what is a hobby and what's a job, to some photography is a hobby, or you can do it professionally. Art can be a hobby or you can do it professionally, you can cook as a hobby but some do it professionally, you can critique restaurants when you eat there, but some do it professionally, you can play baseball as a hobby, some people do it professionally, football too, oh same with basketball, hmm any other sports you can think of? I can. what about weightlifting? you can do it as a hobby, sure why not, but some do it professionally

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                                                                                                    i work on my car as a hobby, but I know people who do it professionaly, i like to clean my room when i'm bored, believe it or not, people do that professionally too.

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                                                                                                      I clean my apartment only when I have to. Once to twice a week.

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