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    Dear Billy Fish "PLEASE READ AND ANSWER"

    Hello Fish,

    Since you think I am a “goofball”(as mentioned on your twitter page), please answer these following questions as honestly as possible. You could obviously answer them without being serious or not answer them at all but that would just prove that I am right about this situation. If I am wrong about this then answer these questions and clear it all up and make me look stupid but ignoring it just makes you look like your afraid to face the facts of the matter. With that being said, lets just dive into this, shall we?


    First question, do you have a contract with powerslide distribution?

    If no, then why don’t you ask for one? Surely if their licensing out to Barbie and Batman they know how to write them up?

    Do you realize they can afford to give you health insurance? Does it bother you that you got hurt for them on tour and they still don’t give it to you?

    Did powerslide help you pay for your medical bills after surgery that you had to go through while skating on their tour?

    Would powerslide have fired you if you could have never skated again after the accident?

    What do you think of the fact, that they have licensed contracts with Barbie, Batman, Hotwheels, etc. and make scooters, skateboards and skates for children but say there is no room in the budget for better treatment of pros? Do you believe them when they tell you that? And have you ever seen the books from powerslide to confirm this?

    Do you consider powerslide to be skater owned? Yes or no?

    If you answered yes to the last question then do you consider what you do to be the same as an old man skating off-road skates with ski poles?

    If you answered no to the last question then why stress the importance of skater owned in your One Magazine interview if your not going to practice what you preach?


    Do you like Demetrious George’s skating? And did you ever ask him to take a step down from being a pro skater for USD? And if you did ask him to step down, why did you do that?

    Where does the loyalty you have for the conference stem from? (Use a metaphor to describe this question if applicable.)

    Do you think you get fair treatment riding for USD? If so why?

    How come when I left you guys stayed? Was it just for the money or do you really believe in what USD is doing?

    What do you think about Kizer and Undercover's advertising strategies? good for the industry standards or bad for the industry standards?

    Is their plans for a USD video? And if yes do you think it will top Coup De Tat? And if it can't then what is the point of making one? (considering it does happen)

    Would you get a Create Originals tattoo? If no, why not? Would you ever get a USD tattoo? If no, why not?

    Would you sacrifice to skate for a skater owned boot company even if it would help the future but you'd have to make it with no money for a while?

    Do you plan to stay with USD for the rest of your life or are you waiting on a skater run boot company that can pay you right off the bat without you having to sacrifice for it?

    If you did choose to skate for a skater owned boot company that involves no payment do you have enough friends all over the world that would help you through your struggle? or would your friends let you die from hunger?

    What is more important in your mind, you getting paid to rollerblade or rollerblading making the right moves to gain the respect it deserves? And do you think helping USD maintain a good image through your reputation and skill is helping the skater run movement you mentioned in One Magazine?

    Ok that is all....

    Thanks for your time Fish.
    Last edited by CK; 21.09.2010, 07:58.
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    #2
    He doesn't have to answer to you.

    You're a pathetic has-been that can't stand the fact that your friends are stilling living the life you wish you could have.

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      #3
      http://www.vimeo.com/skatevideos#14094294 That looks like fun

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        #4
        Originally posted by Quark View Post
        He doesn't have to answer to you.

        You're a pathetic has-been that can't stand the fact that your friends are stilling living the life you wish you could have.
        your assuming i was fired right? ok well i wasnt....mark korte got fired not me

        anywho i wrote these because if he does answer these questions honestly it could help change things around for the better and people can start to see whose who...i pray to god he answers them honestly
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          #5
          Originally posted by CK View Post
          your assuming i was fired right? ok well i wasnt....mark korte got fired not me

          anywho i wrote these because if he does answer these questions honestly it could help change things around for the better and people can start to see whose who...i pray to god he answers them honestly
          You mean you hope he says what you want him to say. You don't want his opinion, or anyone else's, you just want to be right. And you're wrong, Colin. Dead wrong. Almost everything you post is grounds to have you sectioned.

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            #6
            ha whats sectioned?
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              #7
              PM


              WANT TO BUY
              Face The Music

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                #8
                Being sectioned means you are detained, under the Mental Health Act, for hospital treatment.
                .

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                  #9
                  do you know how many conversations ive had with fish ? i know him and his thoughts on skating very well and he knows mine very well more than any of you and i want skaters to start sharing their true feelings and not care about money


                  if rollerblading is going to make money it has to not care about the fake money thats in it right now
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by CK View Post
                    do you know how many conversations ive had with fish ? i know him and his thoughts on skating very well and he knows mine very well more than any of you and i want skaters to start sharing their true feelings and not care about money


                    if rollerblading is going to make money it has to not care about the fake money thats in it right now
                    Not care about money? Shit son, all you've done it bitch about not getting paid. How do you say that, and one sentence later, state that rollerblading needs more money? You're an idiot.

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                      #11
                      CK,
                      you don't seem to understand how licensing deals work. Matel does not pay powerslide to make the skates. Powerslide pays matel for the right to use the name and those rights usually don't come cheap especially if you are going to distribute the product globally. They probably only make them to pick up some extra scratch, shit aint big money.
                      Last edited by ninon no chinko; 21.09.2010, 07:39. Reason: can't spell.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Quark View Post
                        Not care about money? Shit son, all you've done it bitch about not getting paid. How do you say that, and one sentence later, state that rollerblading needs more money? You're an idiot.
                        quark your not understanding this because your ego revolves around the intellect you think you have...and I get that. Your a fat kid so being smart makes up for your lack in appearance so you have to stress it every chance you can. However; I am going to cease commenting you after this and wait for William to join us. He can really do a world of a difference. And right now only he knows what I am talking about. So please excuse me while I patiently wait for my old friend and much respected skater.
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                          #13
                          Quark chill, you're not getting it.....let 'em do what they're here to do.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by wujcik View Post
                            CK,
                            you don't seem to understand how licensing deals work. Matel soes not pay powerslide to make the skates. Powerslide pays matel for the right to use the name and those rights usually don't come cheap especially if you are going to distribute the product globally.
                            yea and you spend that kind of dough to make that kind of dough....there obviously not losing money off it...not sure i get you
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                              #15
                              I'd love to hear Billy's response to these questions, but I know I won't. However, the bits of info that come out through CK's posts are interesting...like the fact that powerslide produces children's toys.
                              Last edited by shaneK; 21.09.2010, 07:41. Reason: grammar fuckers

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                                #16
                                Originally posted by CK View Post
                                quark your not understanding this because your ego revolves around the intellect you think you have...and I get that. Your a fat kid so being smart makes up for your lack in appearance so you have to stress it every chance you can. However; I am going to cease commenting you after this and wait for William to join us. He can really do a world of a difference. And right now only he knows what I am talking about. So please excuse me while I patiently wait for my old friend and much respected skater.
                                Yeah, I sure got told by that dude that has no career, no working experience, still lives off his parents' dime in their basement and has nothing to show for his existence at age 25.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by CK View Post
                                  yea and you spend that kind of dough to make that kind of dough....there obviously not losing money off it...not sure i get you
                                  if they profit anymore than $15 a pair I would be very surprised.

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by wujcik View Post
                                    if they profit anymore than $15 a pair I would be very surprised.
                                    and you know because you've seen the books or you've had licensed deals with barbie yourself?
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                                      #19
                                      quit striving for attention, just email him or call him instead of trying to get me to care

                                      if I give you $3k will you go away?


                                      WANT TO BUY
                                      Face The Music

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DnEhThEnD View Post
                                        quit striving for attention, just email him or call him instead of trying to get me to care

                                        if I give you $3k will you go away?
                                        I will.

                                        Now pay me bitch

                                        www.drewamato.com
                                        www.drewamato.com

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                                          #21
                                          50 pages


                                          Fishbrain stall on unattached coping
                                          Photo: Nick Gunter

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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DnEhThEnD View Post
                                            quit striving for attention, just email him or call him instead of trying to get me to care

                                            if I give you $3k will you go away?
                                            I am striving for attention you are right. But not for myself... I want to bring attention to the fact that powerslide is helping further a negative stigma around skating and that it treats our culture's professionals who ride for them like its an internship. With great power comes great responsibility and powerslide should be more responsible for how it affects the lives of young impressionable skaters wanting to make something in this industry. It's a complete mockery of our culture and I will never stop standing against it as long as I am breathing. I want them gone or I want them to change their practices.

                                            Listen to what Billy has to say considering he will sacrifice for the greater good to be honest. Please Billy if I ever asked you for one thing in this world. Please tell these guys the truth and do it through answering these questions. Lets start now rather than realizing this later my friend.
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                                              #23
                                              So I was quietly sitting here, at my uncles house enjoying the Evening. It's been a fairly decent day, I ordered some fresh Eulogys (shutup jakeordie) from those chumps in Sunnyvale. Went to the park, played some basketball, and my knee doesn't hurt. The 49ers played earlier, even though the lost the game, they played a great fucking game. The Raiders played yesterday. They won. I grubbed on some chow fucking mein, drank me a fucking soda, with ice, and proceeded to post on the couch. Mad Max just finished playing on the TV and im steady bumping LITTLE BRUCE.

                                              SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

                                              I log the fuck onto be mag, and my glorious day just got this much fucking better, i stumble upon this beauty of a post.


                                              Mr. CK, Thank you for making my day even better, or technically, starting my Tuesday off fucking right.
                                              HËLLAHËLLA

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Dre View Post
                                                So I was quietly sitting here, at my uncles house enjoying the Evening. It's been a fairly decent day, I ordered some fresh Eulogys (shutup jakeordie) from those chumps in Sunnyvale. Went to the park, played some basketball, and my knee doesn't hurt. The 49ers played earlier, even though the lost the game, they played a great fucking game. The Raiders played yesterday. They won. I grubbed on some chow fucking mein, drank me a fucking soda, with ice, and proceeded to post on the couch. Mad Max just finished playing on the TV and im steady bumping LITTLE BRUCE.

                                                SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

                                                I log the fuck onto be mag, and my glorious day just got this much fucking better, i stumble upon this beauty of a post.


                                                Mr. CK, Thank you for making my day even better, or technically, starting my Tuesday off fucking right.
                                                with all due respect dre, as flattering as your words may be...this is not meant for entertainment purposes...this is meant to inform
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                                                  #25
                                                  hello

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                                                    #26
                                                    ck, keep fighting the good fight.

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                                                      #27
                                                      CK, they sell ladders at home depot, please don't fall from your horse.

                                                      USD(powerslide) has done so much for skating, big deal if they didn't give you health insurance....Welcome to the life 50% of Americans have. Respect the foundations they have laid down and move on. Bitch.

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Chris Calkins View Post
                                                        CK, they sell ladders at home depot, please don't fall from your horse.

                                                        USD(powerslide) has done so much for skating, big deal if they didn't give you health insurance....Welcome to the life 50% of Americans have. Respect the foundations they have laid down and move on. Bitch.

                                                        But Billy is far greater and more talented than 50% of Americans, and thats the whole point. This guy is one of the best in the world at his craft, and when your the best in the world at something you get respected like such. The conference does not respect his worth and value as an asset to the branding of USD.
                                                        Last edited by CK; 21.09.2010, 08:38.
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                                                          #29
                                                          please stfu with all this skater owned crap. i'm tired of hearing about it.

                                                          www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                            #30
                                                            Wow, this sounds like a real problem.....maybe when Billy joins us you two can touch dicks and let your powers combine.

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                                                              #31
                                                              just skate which ever skates you like not just because it is "skater owned" and support whoever the fuck you want.

                                                              www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                                #32
                                                                Nice job of NOT being a pro. You could have emailed or called Billy, yet you go to Be-Mag. If you want to be left alone, quit posting your crazy rants where the industry can see how much of a bitter pillow biter you really are.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Chris Calkins View Post
                                                                  Nice job of NOT being a pro. You could have emailed or called Billy, yet you go to Be-Mag. If you want to be left alone, quit posting your crazy rants where the industry can see how much of a bitter pillow biter you really are.
                                                                  Yeah, he sure is a great friend, calling him out in public and all.

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by humphrey View Post
                                                                    please stfu with all this skater owned crap. i'm tired of hearing about it.
                                                                    Were you tired of hearing about skater owned "crap" when Billy talked about the importance of skater owned in his One Magazine interview? Did it bother you then?

                                                                    And if skater owned isn't part of our destiny to build a better future than can you please explain to me what is?

                                                                    I think skating needs to start weeding companies out that don't have our best interests invested into them and its going to have to start with the pros and the skater owned entrepreneurs. They must first come out and then the masses who get it will follow and so on. There is actually a strategy involved to making this happen for a better future but its going to involve major pros speaking out and skater owned entrepreneurs making their voices of reason heard.

                                                                    And it just so happens be-mag is unfortunately one of the few pedestals in which we have to do this on.

                                                                    I'm sorry Humphrey if your tired about hearing this. You can always choose to ignore it you know?
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      and quark, he just called you fat. you gonna sit on your fat ass and take that.

                                                                      www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Forgive me if I'm wrong, but fish does not post on be-mag.
                                                                        "You are a menace. A walking pestilence."

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          51 pages!!!!

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Chris Calkins View Post
                                                                            Nice job of NOT being a pro. You could have emailed or called Billy, yet you go to Be-Mag. If you want to be left alone, quit posting your crazy rants where the industry can see how much of a bitter pillow biter you really are.
                                                                            If the determining factor of being pro is 1300 bucks a month, no contract and no health benefits in this industry count me out. I'd much rather use the knowledge I've gained while on the inside to correct the problem then sell myself for less than I am worth. That only in turn affects the next generation who I would personally like to see getting better offers than my generation had.
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              go skateboard

                                                                              www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I love how i made more money from rollerblading than most pro rollerbladers
                                                                                HËLLAHËLLA

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by humphrey View Post
                                                                                  go skateboard
                                                                                  what is that supposed to mean? Obviously your implying something but on what grounds would you allow support for that statement to even be valid? And haven't we hung out in Philly before? You were that real nice, shy kid who takes pictures right? Yea I know you. Whats the problem all of a sudden?
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by CK View Post
                                                                                    I think skating needs to start weeding companies out that don't have our best interests invested into them and its going to have to start with the pros and the skater owned entrepreneurs. They must first come out and then the masses who get it will follow and so on. There is actually a strategy involved to making this happen for a better future but its going to involve major pros speaking out and skater owned entrepreneurs making their voices of reason heard.

                                                                                    And it just so happens be-mag is unfortunately one of the few pedestals in which we have to do this on.
                                                                                    Your real sponsor has underestimated us.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CK View Post
                                                                                      I am striving for attention you are right. I want attention.

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        i support dead companies
                                                                                        salomon and fila ftw
                                                                                        kizer+eulogy for life
                                                                                        conference ftw

                                                                                        www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by CK View Post
                                                                                          what is that supposed to mean? Obviously your implying something but on what grounds would you allow support for that statement to even be valid? And haven't we hung out in Philly before? You were that real nice, shy kid who takes pictures right? Yea I know you. Whats the problem all of a sudden?
                                                                                          i mean if u wanna go to an industry with money

                                                                                          www.flickr.com/photos/drewhumphrey

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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            ^^^i knew someone was going to say that...wanting the youth to be publicly appreciated for our talents isn't a bad thing. having the next generations hold a larger place in the world with blading isn't a bad thing. it's not about making the millions of dollars, its about learning from other sports/organizations mistakes and doing even better with those millions of dollars that matters. there would be no better pleasure than seeing some kid who had my dream, have his/her dream come true. some do this for fun, some want it to mean more to them. some are good enough to have this be their profession, if certain companies and people started making real decisions and made sure things are done properly. you would be stupid to not fight for what you are best at, and love the most, to be your profession.

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by jakeordie View Post
                                                                                              Your real sponsor has underestimated us.
                                                                                              you again, stop with the innuendo.

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by CK View Post
                                                                                                If the determining factor of being pro is 1300 bucks a month, no contract and no health benefits in this industry count me out. I'd much rather use the knowledge I've gained while on the inside to correct the problem then sell myself for less than I am worth. That only in turn affects the next generation who I would personally like to see getting better offers than my generation had.
                                                                                                im pretty new to this board. got to get on the computer now that i got a desk job. but reading this and the questions makes me want to know the answers. just out of curiosity. seems like rollerblading is in the position that skateboarding used to be in.
                                                                                                Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE*
                                                                                                My favorite episode was when the chick was on all fours with a stomach bug spraying out of both holes........crying.....I was so fucking hard


                                                                                                Originally posted by CK
                                                                                                ahahah sike niggers

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Dre View Post
                                                                                                  I love how i made more money from rollerblading than most pro rollerbladers
                                                                                                  exactly!!! that's why he's doing this.

                                                                                                  at least he was willing to quit his sponsors and then start talking, instead of hating it and just taking the money while hating it. i'm on unemployment and i almost make 1300/month. you really think Billy O'neil (or insert your favorite USD skater) is worth only that? we're not just talking about random dudes being paid to skate, we're talking about some of the best in the world.


                                                                                                  i dunno if you're telling the truth (or truth 2) but if you are, preach on!

                                                                                                  CK, if you are telling the truth (and if you are lying its not like you would tell us anyway), is that the standard pay for USD, or for all Conference skaters? like, does Farmer make $1300/month from the Conference, with no health insurance? and stockwell and all the Conference pro skate dudes? richie eisler, etc?


                                                                                                  "Do you feel that Randy? The way the shit clings to the air? Shit blizzard."

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by humphrey View Post
                                                                                                    i mean if u wanna go to an industry with money
                                                                                                    I am not out for money thats why I quit all my sponsors. I want to be able to vocalize my learned truths about the industry while having been on the inside to create change. I don't want to drag my other sponsors into this and on top of that I do not want to be associated with companies who have conference riders of any kind. Thats why I'd rather just blade for me.

                                                                                                    Humphrey this isn't about money. I am going to college for that. This is about seeing something I love so dearly be able to sustain itself on its own by skaters who really care and sympathize toward a brighter future. I am leaving the title behind to skate for fun and have the freedom to say what I want. That is all nothing more. And I like to think I have many great ideas towards how to complete this transformation that in the end would better our community. It's just going to take sacrifice and I realized before I got myself into this there would be many people with doubts and confusion.
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