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    just watched a doco on STRAIGHTEDGE

    What a bunch of fucking losers.
    Its like a group were looking to be different and rebelious and decided

    'how bout we stop drinking and drugs and were not getting sex anyway, so lets control that too!'

    It ended with three 13 year olds talking about how straight edge they were and that they were the fututre and had a lot of responsibility because of all the history straight edge has.

    #2
    The whole straight edge thing is a concern of teenagers, I'm 22 years old and never hear about that shit anymore except for on be-mag.

    It's a teenager thing like Nike Dunks (Another thing I only hear about here), please get over it.

    Btw Minor Threat + Ian Mackaye are amazing.

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      #3
      Originally posted by JamesTheGreat
      The whole straight edge thing is a concern of teenagers, I'm 22 years old and never hear about that shit anymore except for on be-mag.

      It's a teenager thing like Nike Dunks (Another thing I only hear about here), please get over it.

      Btw Minor Threat + Ian Mackaye are amazing.

      Im in another country and maybe it was old....

      ian was on a radio program over here speaking for an hour or so and seemed like a smart cool guy.

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        #4
        There's alot of things that you should lose concern about as you get older, sort of like when Henry Rollins was asked about the state of Punk rock music today, he said "It's a young man's game, that I have no stake in" it doesn't concern it, it's not important, why do you care?

        Once again I would not have heard about Straight Edge this month if I didn't read of it on be-mag.

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          #5
          Why the hell would you feel the need to label yourself something like that? If you don't want to drink or smoke, don't do it. There's no need to make a little club, and act as if everyone else is excluded. To me that's like me saying I'm choc-edge. No chocolate est 1998 son, that shit's raw!

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            #6
            Originally posted by WoF
            Why the hell would you feel the need to label yourself something like that? If you don't want to drink or smoke, don't do it. There's no need to make a little club, and act as if everyone else is excluded. To me that's like me saying I'm choc-edge. No chocolate est 1998 son, that shit's raw!

            except if you were edge you would beat up people who ate chocolate.

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              #7
              Originally posted by JamesTheGreat
              The whole straight edge thing is a concern of teenagers, I'm 22 years old and never hear about that shit anymore except for on be-mag.

              It's a teenager thing like Nike Dunks (Another thing I only hear about here), please get over it.

              Btw Minor Threat + Ian Mackaye are amazing.
              forces don't really fit my feet right, air maxes are good, yeah i like dunks

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                #8
                Re: just watched a doco on STRAIGHTEDGE

                Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE*
                What a bunch of fucking losers.
                Its like a group were looking to be different and rebelious and decided

                'how bout we stop drinking and drugs and were not getting sex anyway, so lets control that too!'

                It ended with three 13 year olds talking about how straight edge they were and that they were the fututre and had a lot of responsibility because of all the history straight edge has.
                Was it the one from national geographic? I randomly watched that whole thing yesterday...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by WoF
                  Why the hell would you feel the need to label yourself something like that? If you don't want to drink or smoke, don't do it. There's no need to make a little club, and act as if everyone else is excluded. To me that's like me saying I'm choc-edge. No chocolate est 1998 son, that shit's raw!

                  I hate when people say "why label yourself with something like that?" when talking about straight edge because no one says shit about vegetarians and it's pretty much the same thing.

                  While I agree, most straight edge kids are fucking lame and beating up kids who do drink/smoke is super gay, just let them have their little club and not drink, do drugs. I truly feel bad for some straight edge kids cause I definitely know a couple of them who are nice as can be but they just get classified as an asshole because some kids feel the need to fight other people who don't share the same views.
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                    #10
                    people like to label themselves. except when introducing yourself, there's certain things you don't talk about. OH HAY IM TIM TEBOW AND I SMOKE A HUGE POTHEAD. Oh hey, im donnie, im a vegetarian. it'd be a little weird to tell people you're straight edge upon meeting them. But coining a term or label for the idea isn't such a bad idea. tons of people dont drink or smoke.

                    being straight edge isnt a bad label. it's definitely not my life style, but why hate on it? choosing a life style that strays away from the social norm, but lessens the chance of drug/alcohol dependence/problems. think about when minor threat formed, and how heroin was the "in" drug at the time (or maybe it was coke, but you know).

                    and there's nothing wrong with veganism. fight against global warming and deforestation. just let me eat my delicious animals

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                      #11
                      if you're mormon and also happen to like minor threat, are you straight edge?

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                        #12
                        I don't think Straightedge is a bad thing but these kids are all high and mighty and vocal about it.



                        Keep it to yourself, I'm glad for you but stfu.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NathanC
                          I don't think Straightedge is a bad thing but these kids are all high and mighty and vocal about it.



                          Keep it to yourself, I'm glad for you but stfu.
                          Yeah, exactly.. That's exactly why straight edge kids catch a bad rep because 75% of them are fucking assholes and think they're all superior and shit, it's fucking lame.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by t1m_t3b0w
                            people like to label themselves. except when introducing yourself, there's certain things you don't talk about. OH HAY IM TIM TEBOW AND I SMOKE A HUGE POTHEAD. Oh hey, im donnie, im a vegetarian. it'd be a little weird to tell people you're straight edge upon meeting them. But coining a term or label for the idea isn't such a bad idea. tons of people dont drink or smoke.

                            being straight edge isnt a bad label. it's definitely not my life style, but why hate on it? choosing a life style that strays away from the social norm, but lessens the chance of drug/alcohol dependence/problems. think about when minor threat formed, and how heroin was the "in" drug at the time (or maybe it was coke, but you know).

                            and there's nothing wrong with veganism. fight against global warming and deforestation. just let me eat my delicious animals
                            Oh, and look, nobody cares about your argument.

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                                #16
                                Kill the straight age!!

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Bassimastprime
                                  Originally posted by t1m_t3b0w
                                  people like to label themselves. except when introducing yourself, there's certain things you don't talk about. OH HAY IM TIM TEBOW AND I SMOKE A HUGE POTHEAD. Oh hey, im donnie, im a vegetarian. it'd be a little weird to tell people you're straight edge upon meeting them. But coining a term or label for the idea isn't such a bad idea. tons of people dont drink or smoke.

                                  being straight edge isnt a bad label. it's definitely not my life style, but why hate on it? choosing a life style that strays away from the social norm, but lessens the chance of drug/alcohol dependence/problems. think about when minor threat formed, and how heroin was the "in" drug at the time (or maybe it was coke, but you know).

                                  and there's nothing wrong with veganism. fight against global warming and deforestation. just let me eat my delicious animals
                                  Oh, and look, nobody cares about your argument.
                                  why does it matter if im not trying to sway opinions? i just like to talk

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Rickayyy
                                    Originally posted by NathanC
                                    I don't think Straightedge is a bad thing but these kids are all high and mighty and vocal about it.



                                    Keep it to yourself, I'm glad for you but stfu.
                                    Yeah, exactly.. That's exactly why straight edge kids catch a bad rep because 75% of them are fucking assholes and think they're all superior and shit, it's fucking lame.
                                    HEY RICKAYYY

                                    i am straight edge...i have been my whole life and you will never hear me say that i am...do it for yourself dont make a big deal out of it.

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                                      #19
                                      Honestly... As a whole, I pretty much despise the entire "straight edge" scene. If you really need to flaunt around the fact that you don't smoke or drink, you are only asking for attention. So you don't smoke or drink... Just be happy with that and call it good.

                                      My buddy Jeff is a perfect example of what straight edge should have been. He's 22, never smoked or drank a day in his life. He's got a straight edge tattoo on the front of his shin, and you will never once hear him bash on someone else for drinking or smoking.

                                      I hate all the vegetarian/vegans about the same. Be a vegan because you like it, not because you want to tell everyone else about how horrible they are for eating meat and animal byproducts. My mom has been vegan for years, and she never bothers telling me that I should stop eating meat... Because she knows I'm healthy how I am.

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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wRek
                                        Honestly... As a whole, I pretty much despise the entire "straight edge" scene. If you really need to flaunt around the fact that you don't smoke or drink, you are only asking for attention. So you don't smoke or drink... Just be happy with that and call it good.

                                        My buddy Jeff is a perfect example of what straight edge should have been. He's 22, never smoked or drank a day in his life. He's got a straight edge tattoo on the front of his shin, and you will never once hear him bash on someone else for drinking or smoking.

                                        I hate all the vegetarian/vegans about the same. Be a vegan because you like it, not because you want to tell everyone else about how horrible they are for eating meat and animal byproducts. My mom has been vegan for years, and she never bothers telling me that I should stop eating meat... Because she knows I'm healthy how I am.
                                        thats the same way i feel about it...no one cares that i dont drink or smoke and if you want to thats fine its your life not mine. it has such a bad rep.

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                                          #21
                                          What bothers me most about this thread is the word "doco."

                                          I'm told that Ian Mackaye isn't nearly as cool as people think he is. That he words things in a way so that he can claim to never have anything to do with something if it makes him look bad later. Straightedge as an example.

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                                            #22
                                            i saw that. im happy that people who make an issue of it are mainly associated with metalcore and so aren't in my scene really. some people are but it's not an issue it's a personal choice not a collective one

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                                              #23
                                              Oh, this thread again. Yea, it's been a few months, it's about time.

                                              Personally, the way I explain it to people, if they ask, is that I consider myself straightedge- with a lower-case "s". I adhere to most of what's considered the Straightedge ideal, but have my own motivations for doing so, and do not slap any labels on it.

                                              Some people, on the other hand, are what I call "Straightedge with a capital s", or "Straightedge-brand straightedge." Meaning, they're way into the music/bands, X'ing up, the sXe movement, etc- and that's fine with me. My good friend Ryan C. (aka xGREENxCLOVERx) would fit into this group.

                                              And, just like anything else, there are people who've take the idea and spirit of Straightedge way off the deep end, or who don't even know where it came from or was originally intended to mean (scenester douchebags, SXE jocks, courage crew meatheads, etc).... just as there are people who take clean living/sobriety way off the deep end (some Christian sects, prohibitionists, etc).

                                              BUT, that doesn't mean that those few douchebags and idiots invalidate the entire idea or movement.

                                              Basically, 14-year-olds and douchebags can ruin anything.

                                              EDIT- I just realized I put "capital C" instead of "capital S"... durrr.

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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by al dolega
                                                Oh, this thread again. Yea, it's been a few months, it's about time.

                                                Personally, the way I explain it to people, if they ask, is that I consider myself straightedge- with a lower-case "c". I adhere to most of what's considered the Straightedge ideal, but have my own motivations for doing so, and do not slap any labels on it.

                                                Some people, on the other hand, are what I call "Straightedge with a capital C", or "Straightedge-brand straightedge." Meaning, they're way into the music/bands, X'ing up, the sXe movement, etc- and that's fine with me. My good friend Ryan C. (aka xGREENxCLOVERx) would fit into this group.

                                                And, just like anything else, there are people who've take the idea and spirit of Straightedge way off the deep end, or who don't even know where it came from or was originally intended to mean (scenester douchebags, SXE jocks, courage crew meatheads, etc).... just as there are people who take clean living/sobriety way off the deep end (some Christian sects, prohibitionists, etc).

                                                BUT, that doesn't mean that those few douchebags and idiots invalidate the entire idea or movement.

                                                Basically, 14-year-olds and douchebags can ruin anything.
                                                I've never seen a straightedge fat guy before.

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                                                  #25
                                                  idk. Fuck minor threat though.

                                                  and fuck ian for his movements.

                                                  I do like his views abo ut 5 dollar shows, but fuck him anyways.

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                                                    #26
                                                    straight edge is really fucking stupid. your entire body operates around chemical reactions, and everything you eat, drink, and breathe causes a change in the chemical composition interacting throughout your body. the idea that you're anymore in control of your body by being "sober" is a joke; your hormones are in constant flux and have more control over what you do then a straight edger will ever admit. so why limit your options by labeling yourself with some asinine group of idiots who for the most part don't know shit and just want to attract attention to themselves by being "different?"

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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by chimbaktu
                                                      straight edge is really fucking stupid. your entire body operates around chemical reactions, and everything you eat, drink, and breathe causes a change in the chemical composition interacting throughout your body. the idea that you're anymore in control of your body by being "sober" is a joke; your hormones are in constant flux and have more control over what you do then a straight edger will ever admit. so why limit your options by labeling yourself with some asinine group of idiots who for the most part don't know shit and just want to attract attention to themselves by being "different?"


                                                      qft

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                                                        #28
                                                        SMOKE WEED, PUSSIES.

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                                                          #29
                                                          isn't broskow straight edge? but the kind without the Xes of course

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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by chimbaktu
                                                            straight edge is really fucking stupid. your entire body operates around chemical reactions, and everything you eat, drink, and breathe causes a change in the chemical composition interacting throughout your body. the idea that you're anymore in control of your body by being "sober" is a joke; your hormones are in constant flux and have more control over what you do then a straight edger will ever admit. so why limit your options by labeling yourself with some asinine group of idiots who for the most part don't know shit and just want to attract attention to themselves by being "different?"
                                                            So, because we're slaves to our animal chemistries, everyone should just say "fuck it", and mess with that chemistry even more? I mean, I have no problem with people doing what they want, as long as it doesn't fuck with my day; but that just seems like an awfully weak justification. And the idea that someone who's, say, coked out, or completely shitfaced drunk, is just as in control of themselves as they would be sober is just ridiculous.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SnOwHIO
                                                              isn't broskow straight edge? but the kind without the Xes of course
                                                              That just makes you a normal person who cares about your healthy. Many althethes dedicate themselves to being healthy.

                                                              Normal, standard... majority.


                                                              Not unique, different or anything else that straightedgers claim.


                                                              It's just as lame as taking pride in breathing air and beating up anyone who isn't breathing air because they're killing themselves slowly for it.

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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jonathan
                                                                That just makes you a normal person who cares about your healthy. Many althethes dedicate themselves to being healthy.
                                                                HAHAHAHAHAHA

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by al dolega
                                                                  Originally posted by chimbaktu
                                                                  straight edge is really fucking stupid. your entire body operates around chemical reactions, and everything you eat, drink, and breathe causes a change in the chemical composition interacting throughout your body. the idea that you're anymore in control of your body by being "sober" is a joke; your hormones are in constant flux and have more control over what you do then a straight edger will ever admit. so why limit your options by labeling yourself with some asinine group of idiots who for the most part don't know shit and just want to attract attention to themselves by being "different?"
                                                                  So, because we're slaves to our animal chemistries, everyone should just say "fuck it", and mess with that chemistry even more? I mean, I have no problem with people doing what they want, as long as it doesn't fuck with my day; but that just seems like an awfully weak justification. And the idea that someone who's, say, coked out, or completely shitfaced drunk, is just as in control of themselves as they would be sober is just ridiculous.
                                                                  we're not slaves, we're symbiotic and dependent. if you're sick why not take medicine to return to what you consider a "normal" state? if you feel anxiety or depression, why not block the neurotransmitters effecting you, or promote more activity in others? our bodies are ruled by chemicals, so once again, why limit yourself? you don't have to go out and do meth, but fuck it, smoking an 1/8th or drinking a pint won't do any more damage than a cheeseburger, bag of chips, soda, or breathing in city air.

                                                                  soberness gives you the illusion of control. how exactly are you in control of your body? do you monitor your caloric and nutrient intake as well as your hormone levels? do you monitor your brain activity? you're not nearly as in control as you think. besides, if you measure control by acuteness, reaction time, or hand eye coordination, then caffeine makes you sober as hell.....

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Charlie Hustles
                                                                    SMOKE WEED, PUSSIES.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      oh and.....

                                                                      Dont knock it till you tried it.. ....... ........ :arrow:


                                                                      oh and......

                                                                      smoke weed everyday! :arrow: :arrow:

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Really, who cares? Just don't try to push your views on me, I won't either, and we'll be straight.

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Charlie Hustles
                                                                          Really, who cares? Just don't try to push your views on me, I won't either, and we'll be straight.
                                                                          edged

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by PaulWinnicki
                                                                            i am straight edge...you will never hear me say that i am.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              What are you called if you only smoke super-dank herb, but nothing else? Maybe occasionally some hallucinogens, ecstasy, or heroin/oxycontin . . .

                                                                              What am I? I must label myself!

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                finally we agree on something charliehustles ![/quote]

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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  whatever happened to that xkilleveryonex or whatever the hell his name was that kid was a straightedge asshole but it woulda been funny to see his response cause dude thought he was a badass

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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    wow, I didnt see the other posts months ago, had I, I wouldnt of made this one.

                                                                                    I just found it dumb A) why start a movement , I can understand doing it when everyone was doing heroin, but nowdays you just say 'no man I dont want a beer or no man I dont smoke'.
                                                                                    Thats it, dont need to be an attention whore like the people in the AMERICA EXPOSED episode I saw.

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE*
                                                                                      wow, I didnt see the other posts months ago, had I, I wouldnt of made this one.

                                                                                      I just found it dumb A) why start a movement , I can understand doing it when everyone was doing heroin, but nowdays you just say 'no man I dont want a beer or no man I dont smoke'.
                                                                                      Thats it, dont need to be an attention whore like the people in the AMERICA EXPOSED episode I saw.
                                                                                      So... you were joking about the straight edge tattoo?

                                                                                      Anyways, the dude who's accredited for starting the movement/subculture (Ian MacKaye of the band Minor Threat) has stated in numerous interviews that creating a straight edge movement was never his intention. He and his band simply wrote a song about an issue they felt needed addressing, just as every punk band does. And there was no militancy to their message. That came a couple years later with Boston bands DYS and SS Decontrol.

                                                                                      So I think it's silly to hold any bit of resentment towards Ian MacKaye regarding the issue. He's a rad dude who's on a mission to tear down age restriction barriers in music.
                                                                                      VIMEO | YOUTUBE

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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        im straightedge

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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by xGREENxCLOVERx
                                                                                          Originally posted by *ROYALwithCHEESE*
                                                                                          wow, I didnt see the other posts months ago, had I, I wouldnt of made this one.

                                                                                          I just found it dumb A) why start a movement , I can understand doing it when everyone was doing heroin, but nowdays you just say 'no man I dont want a beer or no man I dont smoke'.
                                                                                          Thats it, dont need to be an attention whore like the people in the AMERICA EXPOSED episode I saw.
                                                                                          So... you were joking about the straight edge tattoo?

                                                                                          Anyways, the dude who's accredited for starting the movement/subculture (Ian MacKaye of the band Minor Threat) has stated in numerous interviews that creating a straight edge movement was never his intention. He and his band simply wrote a song about an issue they felt needed addressing, just as every punk band does. And there was no militancy to their message. That came a couple years later with Boston bands DYS and SS Decontrol.

                                                                                          So I think it's silly to hold any bit of resentment towards Ian MacKaye regarding the issue. He's a rad dude who's on a mission to tear down age restriction barriers in music.
                                                                                          I dislike viturally everything Ian has done musically.

                                                                                          I am for his mission towards the all age venues, and making every show locked in at 5 bucks a pop.

                                                                                          But I never been a fan of m.t. or Fugazi. I do like me some post-punk, but not in the direction that was going.

                                                                                          He has engineered some good albums though.

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                                                                                            #46

                                                                                            VIMEO | YOUTUBE

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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Samir Nagheenanajar
                                                                                              If I saw that I don't think I could contain my lulz

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                                                                                              So the reason for all these violent douchey little straight edge kids is boston?!


                                                                                              I shoulda know...

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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I just say people my have gone threw there parents doing drugs, and could feel proud that, but i dont do drugs, and i dont brag, they just might feel happy, im guessing...?

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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by remzroller24
                                                                                                  im straightedge
                                                                                                  haha, VIRGIN!

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    some straight edge people are superior to other people and here is my reasoning. ur stressed out and need a cig or have a bad day and get shitfaced when u come home. having to turn to drugs or alcohol because ur stressed or something makes u a fucking weak person. sure i drink but its to have fun. never drank cuz a gf broke up with me or any of that garbage. this society does have too many weak ass people.

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