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    whats up guys im trying to figure out what path to take for a filming setup. i dont do stills only filming. that being said, i can get a dslr that shoots 60fps for much less than a comparable camcorder like an xa10 or xf100. is there any reason i should stick to video cameras instead of grabbing the next costco deal i see?

    You don't have to get an XA10 or XF100 to get 1080p60, there's plenty of cheaper handicams that will do it. If you like Canon, the G30 and G40 are basically the XA10 without the XLR handle. It's simple enough to buy or make a handle, and you don't need XLR for skating. Panasonic's handicams have had 1080p60 for years, there'd be quite a few models you could find used for a good price.

    Outside of budget, the video cam vs. photo cam decision is more about how much control you want to have over the picture, vs. how much work/time you want to put in to get there. A photo cam, even with the add-ons one usually gets to facilitate shooting video, is a slower/more complicated process to shoot with than a bespoke camcorder/handicam. The flipside of that is that a photo cam generally gives better image quality, is better in low light, and lets you control your depth of field (how much stuff is in focus). You can't do pretty blurred-background shots with a handicam.

    Handicams/camcorders, however, have autofocus, stabilizers, and an all-in-one lens that has a power zoom. In situations where you don't have a lot of time or energy to set up your shot, a camcorder will get you a shot- not necessarily the absolute best/prettiest shot possible, but a shot nonetheless. They get it done. And if some hero at a spot just called the cops and you need to get two more tries in and then GTFO in less than two minutes, you need something quick and practical, and that's usually a camcorder.

    Basically, a camcorder is a minivan. It's not sexy, or fast, but it can do a lot of different things pretty well, or at least well enough. You can get to work, drive in snow, or fit a sheet of plywood in it.

    A photo cam is an old Porsche. If you put the work in to keep it maintained all the time, and learn how to drive it (because it's got a tricky clutch and a lot of power and it's rear-wheel-drive), man, is it sweet. The rest of the time it's kind of a pain in the ass, and you definitely ain't taking it to Home Depot in January to get a new water heater.
    Last edited by al dolega; 14.11.2016, 04:22.


      thanks for the input ive contemplated getting a consumer camcorder but i know ill just end up wishing i had gotten something with a bit more to it i think ill pick up an xa10 in lieu of your advice as well as a filmer buddy of mine.


        Now that I think about it, I checked out Cameron Card's XA10 a bit last winter and he said the XLR box had limited his choices of fisheyes, as it's pretty close to the lens, so a fisheye above a certain outside diameter wouldn't fit. He had an old GL2 Raynox on it, and that was only a mm or two from hitting the XLR box. I doubt a 58mm Century or Opteka would fit. So that is something you may want to consider.

        Past that, buy whatever makes you happy, but know that the difference between a G30 or G40 and the XA10 is literally just the handle with the XLR box. The video quality, lens, usability etc. is the same. Are you going to use XLR microphones? No? Well, then, it's kind of a waste of your money, eh? Money that could be better spent on a quality fisheye, a decent tripod, etc.
        Last edited by al dolega; 15.11.2016, 01:18.


          i hadt thought about that too much... thats definitley a good point