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    canon 5d on 35mm

    Yesterday I attended a sneak preview of "rubber"(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1612774/) directed by quentin dupieux with a canon 5d. I was looking forward to seeing the results on a 35mm print. Overall I must say it looked pretty good. The resolution holds up much better that I thought it would. The blow up results surpassed some disappointing films shot in cine alta, red and such.It's not always perfect though. The main drawback being the way the camera handles highlights, especially on the actors' skins. But for some shots, I think it has to do with the fact that the director (who's not a dp) photographed the film himself mostly with available light. Sometimes the huge sensor makes the depth of field too shallow but it fit the style of the film. So yeah, the camera most definitely has its limits, but if the project is right, it can give really convincing results on the big screen.
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    i just worked as a camera assistant on a project which involved a lot of bodypainting and beautyshots and we shot also on 5D,
    and there were big issues with moire and aliasing which were sometimes so bad that we had to switch to different camera for some shots.

    5D is a cool thing but there are a lot of really bad downsizes. I wish there is a easy way to get the sensor signal from the camera before the compression.
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      #3
      I think ifyou work with a gifted DP who knows the limits of the camera very well, you can get really nice results. Tom stern (who dp'd "mystic river" and "invictus" as well as other eastwood's films) is currently shooting a film in Paris with the canon 1d. I don't know if you guys saw mystic river but the photograhy is truly amazing. If such a respected asc member agrees to work with the tool, then there is most definitely some potential to it. If it were up to me I'd only shoot film(90% of films shot on hd didn't convince me at all i.e."public enemies" by michael mann) but it costs money. the red seems like a good alternative but in my case I don't see the point shooting a film 4K given short film festivals (at least here in Europe) are not even equiped with hd projectors.
      And personally though cameras like the sony ex3 are not bad cameras, the result looks too "video" to me.
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        #4
        Public enemies was ruined by HD, I found it so distracting.

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          #5
          public enemies cine was nasty... horrible choice with 1/30 (or 1/24) shutter speed? whywhywhy. gross.

          RED is great looking, but takes a camera crew of 6-7-8 people to properly use it. and yes who knows what resolution they will even project your indie films in...

          1D/5D are great cameras, having a director shoot a film is suicide for the cine. having TOO shallow a depth of field is totally possible and sometimes annoying.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BEEF View Post

            RED is great looking, but takes a camera crew of 6-7-8 people to properly use it. .

            yeah.... Never heard of a single camera 8 person camera crew. DP or Operator/ 1st A.C./ 2nd A.C. who doubles as data management.

            and if you've got a decent budget you hire a DIT

            Thats 3, maybe 4 people that you actually need to get a good quality image ( you can go skeleton with 2 if you really needed). Anything more then that typically reflects some intern tagging along, or a bloated budget
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              #7
              Have you ever worked with a red? what's your opinion on the camera?
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                #8
                It has more that 1 stop of latitude. If your shooting for the screen, an hdslr should be the last resort. For the web, red or cine alta is overkill.

                Can't wait for this

                http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2010/08/2...eptember-2010/

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by digitalfilmmaker View Post
                  Have you ever worked with a red? what's your opinion on the camera?

                  is this directed at me?

                  If so, I'm a little camera jaded. I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of the new technology and bells and whistles. The RED is a good camera, it has its pros and cons. I've shot stuff I've been very happy with, and I've shot stuff that could look better and it usually comes down to a variety of issues such as location, production design, very rarely the tech specs of the camera. That being said, I'm a lot more interested in what kinds of lights I'm using then the tech specs of a camera. Give me a set of Ultraprimes and a 5 ton with some toys and I'll work with whatever camera I can get my hands on. Cameras are just getting so good that I've kind of just stopped caring lol.

                  i think i've come a long way from my old e-beef with kevgawd over whether the XL2 or DVX is better....I still say DVX ; )
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BEEF View Post
                    public enemies cine was nasty... horrible choice with 1/30 (or 1/24) shutter speed? whywhywhy. gross.

                    .
                    Yes, doesnt that Michael Mann dude also use similar I find it quite annoying when they do the whole low key look wrong.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by micros View Post
                      It has more that 1 stop of latitude. If your shooting for the screen, an hdslr should be the last resort. For the web, red or cine alta is overkill.

                      Can't wait for this

                      http://www.hdwarrior.co.uk/2010/08/2...eptember-2010/
                      even a GL-2 has more than one stop of latitude... yes red offers more 'latitude' than other cameras. but your confused..

                      Originally posted by ADLAVINSKY View Post
                      is this directed at me?

                      If so, I'm a little camera jaded. I have a hard time keeping up with a lot of the new technology and bells and whistles. The RED is a good camera, it has its pros and cons. I've shot stuff I've been very happy with, and I've shot stuff that could look better and it usually comes down to a variety of issues such as location, production design, very rarely the tech specs of the camera. That being said, I'm a lot more interested in what kinds of lights I'm using then the tech specs of a camera. Give me a set of Ultraprimes and a 5 ton with some toys and I'll work with whatever camera I can get my hands on. Cameras are just getting so good that I've kind of just stopped caring lol.

                      i think i've come a long way from my old e-beef with kevgawd over whether the XL2 or DVX is better....I still say DVX ; )

                      ADLAVIN is on the right track ^ production design, lights, movement, LENSES.... far more important than camera... especially considering 1. everything is re-colored, quintuple-re-processed, and double-triple baked in post-production anyway.... 2. 95 percent of people who are consuming what you shoot are not going to notice, comprehend, or care for that matter- the difference between similar high-end cameras...

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